[新聞] 楊照:為什麼捷運沒人搭? - 機車
By Bethany
at 2009-04-27T18:00
at 2009-04-27T18:00
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沒有必要再那邊把任何一個族群妖魔化
要解決交通和環境問題,提高大眾運輸的承載量是該努力的目標
但絕對不是單純去限制某一個族群的權利
而要通盤地思考:
對於各族群的影響,能否將正面效應放大,負面效應減到最低
這些思考應該根植於「實際的統計數字跟研究報告」
否則都是毫無建設性的各說各話而已
很抱歉,不管是楊照的文章或是後面板友的爭吵
我看到的只是不斷用自我的主觀刻板印象在迴護特定族群的利益
楊照說:倫敦、東京、紐約都沒有那麼多機車
原因是什麼?背後的邏輯是什麼?
是因為這些城市有更多的機車管制條例?
還是因為外國人文化水準比較高?
還是只是單純因為這些城市會下雪而已...?
如果拿不出數據跟嚴謹的邏輯推論
來證明管制交通是這些城市機車少的原因
進一步證明因為機車少所以大眾捷運使用量高
楊照舉出的這個例子根本就顯而易見但毫無意義
M板友講了很多機車造成的問題
對於環境的傷害,對於交通的影響,也認為這是政府沒有魄力的結果
也很多板友去反駁他
但,不好意思,兩造雙方也都沒有提出證據
到底汽車造成的問題多?還是機車造成的問題多?
從環保的角度,從事故的角度,從民眾便利性的角度
都該更嚴謹地拿出數字跟推論過程
而不是說,我去國外的經驗如何如何,或我家旁邊的道路如何如何
你去南歐或北歐,交通工具的偏好會相同嗎?
你在忠孝東路或大度路,停車或車流的模式會相同嗎?
這跟東西好吃不好吃一樣,都是主觀
把那麼主觀的東西拿出來講,還提高成為道德層次的批判
一樣是毫無意義,嘴砲而已
不過就是這樣啦,網路嘴砲,名嘴嘴砲,政府嘴砲
台灣人又過了一天
--
要解決交通和環境問題,提高大眾運輸的承載量是該努力的目標
但絕對不是單純去限制某一個族群的權利
而要通盤地思考:
對於各族群的影響,能否將正面效應放大,負面效應減到最低
這些思考應該根植於「實際的統計數字跟研究報告」
否則都是毫無建設性的各說各話而已
很抱歉,不管是楊照的文章或是後面板友的爭吵
我看到的只是不斷用自我的主觀刻板印象在迴護特定族群的利益
楊照說:倫敦、東京、紐約都沒有那麼多機車
原因是什麼?背後的邏輯是什麼?
是因為這些城市有更多的機車管制條例?
還是因為外國人文化水準比較高?
還是只是單純因為這些城市會下雪而已...?
如果拿不出數據跟嚴謹的邏輯推論
來證明管制交通是這些城市機車少的原因
進一步證明因為機車少所以大眾捷運使用量高
楊照舉出的這個例子根本就顯而易見但毫無意義
M板友講了很多機車造成的問題
對於環境的傷害,對於交通的影響,也認為這是政府沒有魄力的結果
也很多板友去反駁他
但,不好意思,兩造雙方也都沒有提出證據
到底汽車造成的問題多?還是機車造成的問題多?
從環保的角度,從事故的角度,從民眾便利性的角度
都該更嚴謹地拿出數字跟推論過程
而不是說,我去國外的經驗如何如何,或我家旁邊的道路如何如何
你去南歐或北歐,交通工具的偏好會相同嗎?
你在忠孝東路或大度路,停車或車流的模式會相同嗎?
這跟東西好吃不好吃一樣,都是主觀
把那麼主觀的東西拿出來講,還提高成為道德層次的批判
一樣是毫無意義,嘴砲而已
不過就是這樣啦,網路嘴砲,名嘴嘴砲,政府嘴砲
台灣人又過了一天
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