改缸的一些建議? - 機車
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at 2009-05-07T00:02
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: 標題: Re: [閒聊] 改缸的一些建議?
: 時間: Wed May 6 08:41:47 2009
:
: 推 neo718:既然內徑都換這麼大了,難道不考慮同時拉行程嗎?XD 05/06 01:17
: → formy780516:有阿...只是有點偏預算..順便問250條...要多少$$XDD 05/06 01:19
: 推 neo718:這我就不清楚行情了.因為我也是有打算要改,但是還沒問價. 05/06 01:23
: → injack01:CVK26就夠用了 重點是要調好 05/06 01:23
: → neo718:我是打算要換Movie150原廠汽缸+把行程拉到70mm.不知可行嗎? 05/06 01:25
: → neo718:這樣算起來,排氣量會到205.4X左右.但是原本空間不知夠嗎? 05/06 01:26
:
: 呃...neo大大....三冠王的行程是57.8
: 要到70....是1220條也?
: 是手誤嗎~?還是我會錯意? @_@?
沒有手誤,如果我之前在網路上查詢到以及nimaj兄提供的資料無誤的話,
原廠Movie 125:汽缸內徑x行程=52.4mm x 57.8mm (實際排氣量換算約為124.646cc)
原廠Movie 150:汽缸內徑x行程=57.4mm x 57.8mm (實際排氣量換算約為149.568cc)
而我昨天的推文的確是在某個環節計算錯誤了,抱歉讓你造成誤會。
我昨晚推文裡的意思,正確的排氣量算起來應該是這樣:
原廠Movie 150汽缸內徑的半徑為28.7mm=2.87cm
總計排氣量=2.87x2.87x3.14159x7.00(為拉行程至70mm)=181.1387cc
如果要到205cc的話,那麼即使行程拉到70mm了,汽缸也要換成至少61mm內徑的大小。
之所以會想要讓排氣量到200cc以上這個量級,有兩個主要原因。
(一)就是我之前在版上某個Sym新車討論串裡頭,在推文裡面曾經提過的看法。
Kymco/Sym/Suzuki/Yamaha這國內四家大廠都遲遲不肯推出新款200cc(或以上)的
"非RV型通勤用速可達"車款到市場上來,
(我知道Kymco兩年多前就推出了Ego250,但是它的外型我個人主觀感受並不太喜歡,
它外型讓我覺得比較有點偏向越野風格的速可達,我喜歡的是Racing/Fighter這種的)
所以當時有人在推文裡頭建議,與其等待廠商推出,不如自己動手加大排氣量還比較快。
(二)我希望改裝增加排氣量之後,能有與G-MAX 200同樣的爬坡加速/爬坡極速能力。
因為這款G-MAX 200原廠排氣量已經有來到約200cc等級了,所以我想如果要讓Movie
也能有同等能力,至少排氣量也要先跟上來。所以才會想要加大到200cc左右。
只是,因為是第一次有這種想要對原廠引擎去做加大排氣量的念頭,
所以考慮到汽缸的耐用性,我昨天推文才會說要使用Movie 150原廠汽缸來用。
(改裝汽缸的類型雖然選擇多,但是耐用性可能降低且風險比原廠還來的高,
在對這方面領域不夠了解的前提下,我不敢貿然隨意拿改裝大口徑的汽缸來嘗試)
然而,因為如果只有換原廠150cc專用的汽缸,排氣量也只能增加25cc,
距離目標還差很遠。所以我才想說要拉行程,把原廠57.4mm增加到70mm的行程。
我知道這樣會與原廠行程差距很大,所以才會因此提問出來,實際可行性如何?
由於我並不清楚要加大排氣量的話,在同時考慮到耐用性以及價格的情況下,
是要加大汽缸內徑?還是從拉行程來著手? 何者的C/P值經濟效益比較高?
所以才提出這些疑問,這就還請版上各位先進與前輩們指教了!<(_ _)>
: 標題: Re: [閒聊] 改缸的一些建議?
: 時間: Wed May 6 08:41:47 2009
:
: 推 neo718:既然內徑都換這麼大了,難道不考慮同時拉行程嗎?XD 05/06 01:17
: → formy780516:有阿...只是有點偏預算..順便問250條...要多少$$XDD 05/06 01:19
: 推 neo718:這我就不清楚行情了.因為我也是有打算要改,但是還沒問價. 05/06 01:23
: → injack01:CVK26就夠用了 重點是要調好 05/06 01:23
: → neo718:我是打算要換Movie150原廠汽缸+把行程拉到70mm.不知可行嗎? 05/06 01:25
: → neo718:這樣算起來,排氣量會到205.4X左右.但是原本空間不知夠嗎? 05/06 01:26
:
: 呃...neo大大....三冠王的行程是57.8
: 要到70....是1220條也?
: 是手誤嗎~?還是我會錯意? @_@?
沒有手誤,如果我之前在網路上查詢到以及nimaj兄提供的資料無誤的話,
原廠Movie 125:汽缸內徑x行程=52.4mm x 57.8mm (實際排氣量換算約為124.646cc)
原廠Movie 150:汽缸內徑x行程=57.4mm x 57.8mm (實際排氣量換算約為149.568cc)
而我昨天的推文的確是在某個環節計算錯誤了,抱歉讓你造成誤會。
我昨晚推文裡的意思,正確的排氣量算起來應該是這樣:
原廠Movie 150汽缸內徑的半徑為28.7mm=2.87cm
總計排氣量=2.87x2.87x3.14159x7.00(為拉行程至70mm)=181.1387cc
如果要到205cc的話,那麼即使行程拉到70mm了,汽缸也要換成至少61mm內徑的大小。
之所以會想要讓排氣量到200cc以上這個量級,有兩個主要原因。
(一)就是我之前在版上某個Sym新車討論串裡頭,在推文裡面曾經提過的看法。
Kymco/Sym/Suzuki/Yamaha這國內四家大廠都遲遲不肯推出新款200cc(或以上)的
"非RV型通勤用速可達"車款到市場上來,
(我知道Kymco兩年多前就推出了Ego250,但是它的外型我個人主觀感受並不太喜歡,
它外型讓我覺得比較有點偏向越野風格的速可達,我喜歡的是Racing/Fighter這種的)
所以當時有人在推文裡頭建議,與其等待廠商推出,不如自己動手加大排氣量還比較快。
(二)我希望改裝增加排氣量之後,能有與G-MAX 200同樣的爬坡加速/爬坡極速能力。
因為這款G-MAX 200原廠排氣量已經有來到約200cc等級了,所以我想如果要讓Movie
也能有同等能力,至少排氣量也要先跟上來。所以才會想要加大到200cc左右。
只是,因為是第一次有這種想要對原廠引擎去做加大排氣量的念頭,
所以考慮到汽缸的耐用性,我昨天推文才會說要使用Movie 150原廠汽缸來用。
(改裝汽缸的類型雖然選擇多,但是耐用性可能降低且風險比原廠還來的高,
在對這方面領域不夠了解的前提下,我不敢貿然隨意拿改裝大口徑的汽缸來嘗試)
然而,因為如果只有換原廠150cc專用的汽缸,排氣量也只能增加25cc,
距離目標還差很遠。所以我才想說要拉行程,把原廠57.4mm增加到70mm的行程。
我知道這樣會與原廠行程差距很大,所以才會因此提問出來,實際可行性如何?
由於我並不清楚要加大排氣量的話,在同時考慮到耐用性以及價格的情況下,
是要加大汽缸內徑?還是從拉行程來著手? 何者的C/P值經濟效益比較高?
所以才提出這些疑問,這就還請版上各位先進與前輩們指教了!<(_ _)>
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