遭檢舉改裝排氣管 竟在網路說「是原 - 機車
By Elma
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我很認真的把影片看完
想回應你內文所提到的一些論述
第一
我沒有看到檢測人員強迫車友簽任何文件,第一段影片5:30
車友拒簽後,5:32處檢驗人員有說「不簽也沒有關係」,至
於最後為什麼又簽了,我想是車友們聽完解釋後願意配合的
關係。
第二
影片內的環保局人員很清楚的表示拍照後會回去比對資料庫
1.若為改裝管
送驗車單,驗過後沒事。
2.若為原廠管
即視為合格,沒有後續動作。
那為什麼原廠管不用驗車,影片中卻一直說原廠驗過會給貼紙?
我記得大約在半年到一年前的新聞內容有提到,因為幾乎所有
極可能為噪音管的車友在到檢時會換回原廠管,導致開罰效率
極差,因此才會有貼紙這一個政策,第二次以後的檢舉及攔查
若非貼紙管即可直接開罰,至於貼紙的方式、品質後續問題(不
得不換排氣管時)等是可以被討論的,畢竟剛上路的政策一定有
改善空間。
改裝管要拿到貼紙也不是不行,只要先送合格的實驗室檢測通過
後,即可到環保局申請貼紙,我知道這點有點擾人,但並不是沒
有合法上路的方式。
第三
影片中的警察,我不認為他們是袖手旁觀
這種聯合稽查的勤務,警察的功能主要是強制力及交通維護的
項目,我本身在消防界待過一段時間,我們遇到酒醉或精神疾
病的民眾我們也不能壓制他,還是要透過警察來協助我們提供
強制力,當然警察就不可能跟家屬或病人討論病史之類的問題,
因為這是我們的專業。
第四
我覺得車友們要檢測人員現場背出該車的年份、噪音標準值等
是有點強人所難,我們去車行換零件也不會要求老闆用眼睛看
就要背出料號,影片中的檢測人員已經說明了不同年份、車款
會有不同標準,代表他有原則上的認知,現場的車友也滿意檢
測人員的回答,如果他連查資料都不會查我們再來檢討人員素
質是比較有意義的。
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http://imgur.com/htRyCEM
http://imgur.com/6Cg05sw
我本身住在永和區福和橋機車上橋引道處,對於這兩個多禮拜
以來的風聲鶴唳,我只能說非常有感,晚上安靜好入眠許多。
許多人說為什麼可以賣不能裝,我想這問題13N也有說明在美國
只要是改裝管店家都會標註RACE ONLY或TRACK ONLY,在台灣法
規還不完善的情況下賣方更是沒有任何責任,但你選擇裝了上路
當然要為你所發出的噪音負責。
http://imgur.com/q1Xeyuo
我個人並非不支持改裝,我自己也有改,為了更好的路感及行
車安全我換了輪胎及K1S,就如同BIKE-IN小三所說,我也很希
望我們能有個完善的改裝法規,而不是無所適從,或許這一次
的事情剛好可以催生法規也說不定,我認為這是車友們應該極
力爭取的部分。
但噪音的問題已經影響太多太多人了,說噪音不會死人的車友
們我很羨慕你們的神經比較無感,對環境適應力極強,不過對
許多民眾來說這就是一種公害。
對於許多人討論的連原廠也抓,測了之後也測不過等傳聞喧囂
塵上,執法技術已經模糊了此次動作背後的含意,不過到底有
多少車友原廠管被送測也是眾說紛紜,我在此向COPPI大正式
回應你之前的問題,我願意在你的要求下寄我車子的無碼高清
照給你,你可以去檢舉我噪音(你如果要檢舉我改裝我也認了...
畢竟惡法亦法),我願意當那個測試的人,如果我原廠管也被要
求送測我會上來回報,並提供後續所有消息給板友。這並非要挑
釁你,只是我願意幫大家釐清真相,以上文長謝謝收看。
--
我很認真的把影片看完
想回應你內文所提到的一些論述
第一
我沒有看到檢測人員強迫車友簽任何文件,第一段影片5:30
車友拒簽後,5:32處檢驗人員有說「不簽也沒有關係」,至
於最後為什麼又簽了,我想是車友們聽完解釋後願意配合的
關係。
第二
影片內的環保局人員很清楚的表示拍照後會回去比對資料庫
1.若為改裝管
送驗車單,驗過後沒事。
2.若為原廠管
即視為合格,沒有後續動作。
那為什麼原廠管不用驗車,影片中卻一直說原廠驗過會給貼紙?
我記得大約在半年到一年前的新聞內容有提到,因為幾乎所有
極可能為噪音管的車友在到檢時會換回原廠管,導致開罰效率
極差,因此才會有貼紙這一個政策,第二次以後的檢舉及攔查
若非貼紙管即可直接開罰,至於貼紙的方式、品質後續問題(不
得不換排氣管時)等是可以被討論的,畢竟剛上路的政策一定有
改善空間。
改裝管要拿到貼紙也不是不行,只要先送合格的實驗室檢測通過
後,即可到環保局申請貼紙,我知道這點有點擾人,但並不是沒
有合法上路的方式。
第三
影片中的警察,我不認為他們是袖手旁觀
這種聯合稽查的勤務,警察的功能主要是強制力及交通維護的
項目,我本身在消防界待過一段時間,我們遇到酒醉或精神疾
病的民眾我們也不能壓制他,還是要透過警察來協助我們提供
強制力,當然警察就不可能跟家屬或病人討論病史之類的問題,
因為這是我們的專業。
第四
我覺得車友們要檢測人員現場背出該車的年份、噪音標準值等
是有點強人所難,我們去車行換零件也不會要求老闆用眼睛看
就要背出料號,影片中的檢測人員已經說明了不同年份、車款
會有不同標準,代表他有原則上的認知,現場的車友也滿意檢
測人員的回答,如果他連查資料都不會查我們再來檢討人員素
質是比較有意義的。
-----------------------------------------------------------
http://imgur.com/htRyCEM
http://imgur.com/6Cg05sw
我本身住在永和區福和橋機車上橋引道處,對於這兩個多禮拜
以來的風聲鶴唳,我只能說非常有感,晚上安靜好入眠許多。
許多人說為什麼可以賣不能裝,我想這問題13N也有說明在美國
只要是改裝管店家都會標註RACE ONLY或TRACK ONLY,在台灣法
規還不完善的情況下賣方更是沒有任何責任,但你選擇裝了上路
當然要為你所發出的噪音負責。
http://imgur.com/q1Xeyuo
我個人並非不支持改裝,我自己也有改,為了更好的路感及行
車安全我換了輪胎及K1S,就如同BIKE-IN小三所說,我也很希
望我們能有個完善的改裝法規,而不是無所適從,或許這一次
的事情剛好可以催生法規也說不定,我認為這是車友們應該極
力爭取的部分。
但噪音的問題已經影響太多太多人了,說噪音不會死人的車友
們我很羨慕你們的神經比較無感,對環境適應力極強,不過對
許多民眾來說這就是一種公害。
對於許多人討論的連原廠也抓,測了之後也測不過等傳聞喧囂
塵上,執法技術已經模糊了此次動作背後的含意,不過到底有
多少車友原廠管被送測也是眾說紛紜,我在此向COPPI大正式
回應你之前的問題,我願意在你的要求下寄我車子的無碼高清
照給你,你可以去檢舉我噪音(你如果要檢舉我改裝我也認了...
畢竟惡法亦法),我願意當那個測試的人,如果我原廠管也被要
求送測我會上來回報,並提供後續所有消息給板友。這並非要挑
釁你,只是我願意幫大家釐清真相,以上文長謝謝收看。
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