請問這兩種零件的名稱跟損壞原因 - 機車
By Sandy
at 2012-07-20T22:32
at 2012-07-20T22:32
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請容我再次說明
請大家"不要再爭是哪一牌機油了"
(避免影響各大廠牌機油的生意)
因為這是嘉義市民權路上某車行的單一事件(店家號稱的"特殊配方")
非因為某牌機油的問題
所以非嘉義地區的版友,也請不用擔心
相關事情的說明
跟更多的照片
在嘉義版有PO上,下面也節錄了部份說明
至於為什麼不公布店家姓名
是因為舉證上的困難
縱使我明知是哪家店,對方若打死不承認,我也無以為力
當然,若有哪位版友有比較先進的儀器可以驗出到底那"塊狀物"是什麼成分
我身邊有保留著,隨時願意提供檢驗
謝謝
***********************************************************************
(我直接貼過來了)
2012/6/30(禮拜六) 我機車壞了
2012/7/01(禮拜日) 很多機車行都休息,所以沒處理
2012/7/02(禮拜一)
這天一大早就請認識的機車行到我壞掉的地方拖機車
機車行拔開馬桶檢查過後
發現是某個開關閥稍微有問題,整修3分鐘就ok,能發動了
但胖胖的大師傅聽了聽引擎聲覺得不太對勁(有"答!答!答!答!"的聲音)
他順口問了我:之前有這樣嗎??
我說:之前一陣子有個怪聲音,後來怪聲音消失後就這樣,因沒其他問題,
且我牽去別家機車行,老闆試騎看看說沒什麼明顯異樣
大師傅就拆開了我的機車
第一個看到的是這個圖片 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/97740816.jpg/
且大約可以看到內部的零件幾乎都是黑漆漆的一片
大師傅就問我:你之前是去哪裡換機油?!
我說:這兩、三年,就都去XX機車行
我有定期換機油,且近兩、三年都在這家換......還換到拿過雞蛋
大師傅說:這到底是什麼機油?? 整個引擎都抹上一坨油,得全部拆開檢查
拆開後就能看到下面
全部零件 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/82576997.jpg/
部分零件圖 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/52990561.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/39865891.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/62787714.jpg/
很明顯的卡一層 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/60951336.jpg/
近照 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/40529169.jpg/
整個零件都被填滿 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/60608386.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/73260442.jpg/
整個黑到爆零件 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/15334948.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/70232178.jpg/
連桿子上都卡一坨一坨 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/46260657.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/50018783.jpg/
我回頭看向大師傅:妳們一般拆開引擎都這麼髒嗎???
(當下有種疑問,是因為這樣才叫"黑手"嗎??)
大師傅說:才不是!!
然後就丟給我一個人家用到壞掉的零件來跟我的比較
(超黑的那個是我的,有點黃的那個是人家的)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/91473407.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/97162717.jpg/
然後大師傅還同時告訴我一個壞消息
我有兩個零件"可能"是因此而壞
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/56887126.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/85899221.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/14545262.jpg/
(有個圓環的部份的確被凹歪了,跟另外兩個已經不太一樣,但我無法拍的很好)
然後.......
全部零件都得先清洗過
大片的得先用刮刀刮除,因為全都黏在上面.....
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/23556693.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/78213870.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/39468800.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/96137935.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/98/45525443.jpg/
刮下來的東西 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/56128923.jpg/
(一片一片像果凍)
極小的凹洞得先用牙刷刷過
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/39159708.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/24905286.jpg/
然後再全部丟進去機器裡面清洗過
這是清洗乾淨的樣子 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/93025351.jpg/
(旁邊還有黑黑的是正常使用下的積碳)
當場看到這場景的不止有我跟店家
甚至連到到場送貨的供應商也嚇了一大跳
因為他從沒看過怎麼會有機車零件內部如此
我想......這應該也是很多修車男生都沒看過的吧.......
碰巧在當場,有個客人要來修車
老闆"當場"拆了他的給我看
人家好好的是這樣 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/49944782.jpg/
然後你在對照我上面的PO文
就會知道我的情況有多.....OOXX
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
附記:
在發生這件事情後,我曾在7/03向小老闆詢問過玻璃罐內的內容物到底為何
小老闆回應: 2行程機油添加汽油精,所以使用玻璃瓶裝
4T機油是德國原裝進口紅鯊機油(200公升大油桶)下去分裝
下面有推文查到紅鲨是哪家機油.....
(抱歉,因為當時手邊有事情,無法立馬PO文)
至於到底如何.......大家自己判斷吧......
※ 引述《ting19841207 (tingting)》之銘言:
: 不好意思,想請教一下各位板友
: 1.想請問這兩款零件的名稱是??
: A. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/85899221.jpg/
: B .http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/56887126.jpg/
: (這兩個零件是放在"汽缸" 還是 "引擎"裡面的????)
: 2.機車行修車的師父告訴我,上面這兩款零件基本上很少人在換
: 這兩種零件會壞掉,是因為黑油有問題,沒辦法正常的潤滑引擎內部
: 這說法正確嗎??
: 3.另外,想請大家幫我看一下,引擎內部 & 汽缸 拆開後
: 髒成這樣,甚至是有"結塊",是正常的嗎??
: (抱歉,我是真的不瞭解,所以才要請教各位,謝謝)
: A. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/73176778.jpg/
: B. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/52990561.jpg/
: C. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/39865891.jpg/
: D. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/50018783.jpg/
: E. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/82576997.jpg/
: F. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/25975955.jpg/
: 謝謝 <(_._)>
: 不好意思~請大家"不要再爭是哪一牌機油了"
: 因為這是嘉義市民權路上某車行的單一事件(店家號稱的"特殊配方")
: 非因為某牌機油的問題
: 所以非嘉義地區的版友,也請不用擔心
: 謝謝
--
請大家"不要再爭是哪一牌機油了"
(避免影響各大廠牌機油的生意)
因為這是嘉義市民權路上某車行的單一事件(店家號稱的"特殊配方")
非因為某牌機油的問題
所以非嘉義地區的版友,也請不用擔心
相關事情的說明
跟更多的照片
在嘉義版有PO上,下面也節錄了部份說明
至於為什麼不公布店家姓名
是因為舉證上的困難
縱使我明知是哪家店,對方若打死不承認,我也無以為力
當然,若有哪位版友有比較先進的儀器可以驗出到底那"塊狀物"是什麼成分
我身邊有保留著,隨時願意提供檢驗
謝謝
***********************************************************************
(我直接貼過來了)
2012/6/30(禮拜六) 我機車壞了
2012/7/01(禮拜日) 很多機車行都休息,所以沒處理
2012/7/02(禮拜一)
這天一大早就請認識的機車行到我壞掉的地方拖機車
機車行拔開馬桶檢查過後
發現是某個開關閥稍微有問題,整修3分鐘就ok,能發動了
但胖胖的大師傅聽了聽引擎聲覺得不太對勁(有"答!答!答!答!"的聲音)
他順口問了我:之前有這樣嗎??
我說:之前一陣子有個怪聲音,後來怪聲音消失後就這樣,因沒其他問題,
且我牽去別家機車行,老闆試騎看看說沒什麼明顯異樣
大師傅就拆開了我的機車
第一個看到的是這個圖片 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/97740816.jpg/
且大約可以看到內部的零件幾乎都是黑漆漆的一片
大師傅就問我:你之前是去哪裡換機油?!
我說:這兩、三年,就都去XX機車行
我有定期換機油,且近兩、三年都在這家換......還換到拿過雞蛋
大師傅說:這到底是什麼機油?? 整個引擎都抹上一坨油,得全部拆開檢查
拆開後就能看到下面
全部零件 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/82576997.jpg/
部分零件圖 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/52990561.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/39865891.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/62787714.jpg/
很明顯的卡一層 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/60951336.jpg/
近照 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/40529169.jpg/
整個零件都被填滿 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/60608386.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/73260442.jpg/
整個黑到爆零件 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/15334948.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/70232178.jpg/
連桿子上都卡一坨一坨 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/46260657.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/50018783.jpg/
我回頭看向大師傅:妳們一般拆開引擎都這麼髒嗎???
(當下有種疑問,是因為這樣才叫"黑手"嗎??)
大師傅說:才不是!!
然後就丟給我一個人家用到壞掉的零件來跟我的比較
(超黑的那個是我的,有點黃的那個是人家的)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/91473407.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/97162717.jpg/
然後大師傅還同時告訴我一個壞消息
我有兩個零件"可能"是因此而壞
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/56887126.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/85899221.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/14545262.jpg/
(有個圓環的部份的確被凹歪了,跟另外兩個已經不太一樣,但我無法拍的很好)
然後.......
全部零件都得先清洗過
大片的得先用刮刀刮除,因為全都黏在上面.....
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/23556693.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/78213870.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/39468800.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/96137935.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/98/45525443.jpg/
刮下來的東西 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/56128923.jpg/
(一片一片像果凍)
極小的凹洞得先用牙刷刷過
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/39159708.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/24905286.jpg/
然後再全部丟進去機器裡面清洗過
這是清洗乾淨的樣子 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/93025351.jpg/
(旁邊還有黑黑的是正常使用下的積碳)
當場看到這場景的不止有我跟店家
甚至連到到場送貨的供應商也嚇了一大跳
因為他從沒看過怎麼會有機車零件內部如此
我想......這應該也是很多修車男生都沒看過的吧.......
碰巧在當場,有個客人要來修車
老闆"當場"拆了他的給我看
人家好好的是這樣 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/49944782.jpg/
然後你在對照我上面的PO文
就會知道我的情況有多.....OOXX
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
附記:
在發生這件事情後,我曾在7/03向小老闆詢問過玻璃罐內的內容物到底為何
小老闆回應: 2行程機油添加汽油精,所以使用玻璃瓶裝
4T機油是德國原裝進口紅鯊機油(200公升大油桶)下去分裝
下面有推文查到紅鲨是哪家機油.....
(抱歉,因為當時手邊有事情,無法立馬PO文)
至於到底如何.......大家自己判斷吧......
※ 引述《ting19841207 (tingting)》之銘言:
: 不好意思,想請教一下各位板友
: 1.想請問這兩款零件的名稱是??
: A. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/85899221.jpg/
: B .http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/56887126.jpg/
: (這兩個零件是放在"汽缸" 還是 "引擎"裡面的????)
: 2.機車行修車的師父告訴我,上面這兩款零件基本上很少人在換
: 這兩種零件會壞掉,是因為黑油有問題,沒辦法正常的潤滑引擎內部
: 這說法正確嗎??
: 3.另外,想請大家幫我看一下,引擎內部 & 汽缸 拆開後
: 髒成這樣,甚至是有"結塊",是正常的嗎??
: (抱歉,我是真的不瞭解,所以才要請教各位,謝謝)
: A. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/73176778.jpg/
: B. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/52990561.jpg/
: C. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/39865891.jpg/
: D. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/50018783.jpg/
: E. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/82576997.jpg/
: F. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/25975955.jpg/
: 謝謝 <(_._)>
: 不好意思~請大家"不要再爭是哪一牌機油了"
: 因為這是嘉義市民權路上某車行的單一事件(店家號稱的"特殊配方")
: 非因為某牌機油的問題
: 所以非嘉義地區的版友,也請不用擔心
: 謝謝
--
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